Senator Grassley Talks About Joyce Meyer's Golden Commode
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Senator Grassley Talks About Joyce Meyer's Golden Commode
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Bastards!~
Stupid stupid guy.
The commode in question is a term
for 'antique chest of drawers' not a toilet
like he's portraying.
The chest was also a donated item and never bought
by the ministries.
Typical - let's accuse first
research later'
type of yellow politicians and journalists.
How do you know the toilet was a donated item?
Did you personally read the files that Grassley has in his possesssion? You are only making assumptions, but Grassley has the prove, and don't forget that he is a Christian! and a Senator.
The Bibles says nothing hidden will not be exposed, including all sins of covetousness, including yours. The love of money is the root of all evil.
Luke 12:15 (King James Version)Jesus Himself said.
And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (King James Version)
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
If you repent, your will go to Hell! (Luke 13:10)
Most churchgoers don't know that if a Christian sins and don't repent, he will loose his salvation. (see Ezekiel 3:20, Exodus 32:33, Revelations 3:5, Revelations 20:15, Revelations 21:8, Romans 8:6-7) I have over 100 scriptural proofs.
Your soul is precious to you, don't loose it to sin and unrepentance, Repent today. I love you and I care about your eternity, so I speak the truth in love.
Repent today!
Johnson Ma from Taipei
Johnson...the "commode" that's being talked about is not a commode (toilet). it's a chest of DRAWERS.
christians are always jumping to accuse and condemn and judge, seriously the commode was a chest of drawers do your research first, you know i think it was the bible that instructed us to think the best of others and not to keep a record of wrongs in corinthians 13
What about a full and "transparent" disclosure of senator's finances - what about their kick-backs, perks, and benefits. They have healthcare for life - among other things. It's ridiculous. I believe in giving where you feel led to give, and if it's "misused" then that person will answer to God. It's not my issue.
LOL. Joyce Meyer makes more in a day than Grassley makes in a year. Never underestimate the giving potential of dumb Christians...
Strawman!
Do you really think a successful preacher like joyce meyers doesn't have her own personal money to spend? I mean she has to make some money for herself too. As many books as she has sold, and writing is hard work, don't you think she earned her money fair and square? THINK ABOUT IT!!! SHE CAN SPEND IT ANY WAY SHE WANTS TOO!
About damn time!
Those that read the Bible read Nahum 3:5 and St Matthew 10:26
I'm already a Republican, but if I wasn't I would be now. Senator Grassley is my new hero!! Thank you Senator....I never thought I'd say this but PLEASE CHANGE THE LAWS TO MAKE THE PIMPS TRANSPARENT. How can you say they don't have personal gain? Please put a cap on their income!! I've never seen such lies and greed!!
I think Grass-boy needs to start with himself. how much is HE making and is it appropriate???
ok, if you read that donald trump had a gold plated toilet worth 50000 would you care? no. but joyce meyer yes lets just cut her throat right now and condemn her to pieces, well just for your information...the 'commode' was not a toilet but was an antique chest of drawers that was installed in one of her offices. I repeat, she did not buy a 23000 dollar toilet to crap in it was an antique chest of drawers!
In a July 7, 2008 release, the office of U.S. Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa, the ranking member of the U.S. Senate Committee on Finance, confirmed that, “Joyce Meyer Ministries provided extensive answers to all questions,” and has “…engaged in open and honest dialogue with committee staff. They have not only provided responses to every question, but, in the spirit of true cooperation, also have provided information over and above what was requested."
Canadian Liberal government members (the highest ranks)
"sponsored" their friends by giving them bogus contracts and paying bogus bills of millions of taxpayers money. How much of those millions ended back in those wonderful polititians' pockets we will never know. Our former PM did not know anything about those incidents (?)His company is registered in the Bahamas so he does not pay any taxes in Canada.
Premier of Ontario gracefuly "accepted" increase in his wages in amount of $40,000. How many of us do not even make 40K a year?
Is anybody investigating those bastards? They are spending yours and mine tax money. I can not say I will not pay because I do not like crooks in the goverment misusing my money. They keep the gun
to my head.
If you do not like evangelists, do not send them money (case closed)
I am sure the goverment is very anxious to turn the public eyes from what they are doing to somebody's elses problems.
I have a question to all Americans. You know that the Iraq war costs billions of dollars. Are you so naive that you think that money just evaporates.
Start investigating who is producing and selling weapons, uniforms, supplies and you will find a small group of people that make a killing doing this killing business.
If the government is telling you "it is good for you" start getting suspicious.
These characters are a blight on the fabric of the Church...What perversion people are willing to embrace so long as there is a cash reward or material gain involved...Do the masses read scripture? The Church in America as represented by there people is a church in SHAME!
THANK GOD FOR SEN. GRASSLEY
judger
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. John 8:7
You just pulled a verse out of context, this is what the Devil does.
True Christians don't condemn sinners, because they are already condemned by God, (Romans 6:23)we in love tell them to repent of their sins against Almighty God, and believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ to be saved.
Sin is transgression of the moral Law of God, which is the Ten Commandments. (1 John 3:4)Did you know that all men sinned, including you, and have broken the Ten Commandments? (Romans 7:7) says with the Law there is no knowledge of sin.
Did you ever know that you have personally violated the Ten Commandments? including the Tenth, which says not to covet money or anything else?
John 8:11 goes on to say: "She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more."
Go and sin no more, Go and sin no more, is what Jesus emphasized.
Jesus later said, go and sin no more. That is what repentance is, hating sin and turn away from sin and stop offending God.
You are a false Christian, and you have never repented of your sins before accepting Jesus as your Savior.
And did you know that if a Christian sins and don't repent, he/she will loose his salvation? (Ezekiel 3:20, Exodus 32:33, Revelations 3:5, 10:15, 21:8)
I sincerely pray you will repent of yours sins and be truly born again.
You have a too high tolerance for sin.
A Christian sins accidentally, when sometimes tempted.
But a false convert will sin "intentionally."
That's why continued repentance throughout your whole lifetime is so important.
Why does it matter? It's so ridiculous! It's not a tax issue at all! At the heart of it, people are simply upset because they have the mentality that pastors and churches should be poor. That isn't what God wants nor is it what was intended. If you give exceddingly, you will reap exceedingly and that is all that is happening in these churches. No one throws a stink because porographic companies have private jets, or because rappers have 24 carat gold ceilings! It's a double standard in America and it needs to stop. Although I believe it's essentially a witch hunt, I'm certain nothing will be found degrading the churches or the way their monies are spent. And now--more than ever--people can hear about the greatness that can come from sowing and reaping!! And people that do so can live more prosperous lives!! Praise the Lord!!
Are YOU rich??? My guess is that if you give to these PIMPS, you are NOT !!!
True Christians don't condemn sinners, because they are already condemned by God, (Romans 6:23)we in love tell them to repent of their sins against Almighty God, and believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ to be saved.
Sin is transgression of the moral Law of God, which is the Ten Commandments. (1 John 3:4)Did you know that all men sinned, including you, and have broken the Ten Commandments? (Romans 7:7) says with the Law there is no knowledge of sin.
Did you ever know that you have personally violated the Ten Commandments? including the Tenth, which says not to covet money or anything else?
John 8:11 goes on to say: "She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more."
Go and sin no more, Go and sin no more, is what Jesus emphasized.
Jesus later said, go and sin no more. That is what repentance is, hating sin and turn away from sin and stop offending God.
You are a false Christian, and you have never repented of your sins before accepting Jesus as your Savior.
And did you know that if a Christian sins and don't repent, he/she will loose his salvation? (Ezekiel 3:20, Exodus 32:33, Revelations 3:5, 10:15, 21:8)
I sincerely pray you will repent of yours sins and be truly born again.
You have a too high tolerance for sin.
A Christian sins accidentally, when sometimes tempted.
But a false convert will sin "intentionally."
That's why continued repentance throughout your whole lifetime is so important.
ANother strawman!
the above strawman was directed at the "rapper's" poster.
The main point here is the use of public resources. Churches are tax exempt for the sole reason of providing their resources to the public and if a church objects to showing his books to the public then he is guilty of the common sense transperency doctrine. I personaly believe these churches should post their annual financial statements on their website for the public to see.
I also wonder how many of these churches spend any money on missions in different countries, after all that is what the bible is all about...Go ye into all the world and preach the gospel....SHAME ON THEM ALL for allowing this to come to this point.
I don't care if these hucksters have a gold throne or an out house with a path. I just want them to pay taxes like the rest of us!!!
Unfortunately Sen. Grassley has a necessary task that I think will be beneficial to "the Church". He is taking a responsibility Christians should have taken themselves in demanding and expecting transparency and honesty from their pastors and televangelists. Our complacency and apathy have led to a lack of accountability that has afflicted the Body of Christ like gangrene and annihilated its street-cred. While we shouldn't defame or accuse anyone without proof (according to earthly AND divine law), it isn't unreasonable--indeed it is a duty--that we ask those who have tax-exempt charity status and benefit from massive donations (whose sole purpose should be/is to help others) to prove that they're doing just that, helping others. All the more if their mission truly is the accomplishment of the Kingdom of God. I hope this inquiry will show they put their money where their mouth is; otherwise they dishonor themselves and those complicit in their charade and bring prejudice to the Gospel. I hope and pray God will guide this inquiry so that the truth may be revealed and that Christians may judge/act accordingly.
Hello world of opinions: Please research before you opine. The new ministry building needed furniture. The ministry said it was one piece of a 68-piece furniture purchase in 2001 for a total of $261,498, but the $23,000 figure was an “errant value assigned by the selling agent.” Oh by the way, this toilet is not something you sit on...it is an old chest of drawers. Antique dealers know this. Love you all. Howard
Um, OK. So why does a preacher need a $23,000 chest of drawers? Wake up!
It was a bulk lot of furniture, the amount was for all of it.
Here is a follow up summer 08 where Joyce is cleared by Grassley's office.
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS151613+11-Jul-2008+MW200...
She is also officially accredited by a watchdog group.
Just steps they never went through before, nothing changed.
In 2007, 83 percent of total expenses were spent on
outreaches and programs directed toward reaching people with the Gospel
of Jesus Christ and meeting the physical needs of the poor and needy
worldwide
I AM NOT ASHAMED OF THE GOSPEL OF JESUS, NOR AM I ASHAMED TO SHOW MY NAME. (SHAME ON THOSE WHO PUT ANONYMOUS. YOU ARE NOT ANONYMOUS WITH OUR HEAVENLY FATHER!) THE WORD OF GOD SAYS: "NOT TO SPEAK AGAINST GOD'S ANNOINTED. WITHOUT A DOUBT JOYCE MEYER IS NOT ONLY CALLED OF GOD BUT IS DEFINITELY ANNOINTED. HENCE, AS THE WORD PROMISES, SHE IS ABUNDANTLY BLESSED AND HIGHLY FAVOURED. PRAISE GOD!! WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN?
GOD BLESS DAVID, JOYCE AND FAMILY.
I completely agree with the Senator and with this man (http://www.tubestime.com/watch/ending-god-s-tax-exempt-status-1 ). Churches became businesses, they shouldn't be tax-exempt.
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